tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post5181853726384091068..comments2024-03-04T04:35:00.320-08:00Comments on Anti Kpop-Fangirl: Non-fat Piggy DollsNayeon's Vibratorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00084865239924176871noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-35453003667922619612011-07-29T09:18:58.833-07:002011-07-29T09:18:58.833-07:00Oddly, I'm not one of those guys who were fool...Oddly, I'm not one of those guys who were fooled.Kwehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-15460143207254145132011-07-29T08:00:41.702-07:002011-07-29T08:00:41.702-07:00seems like some people are butthurt now lolseems like some people are butthurt now lolRoTaryKnighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10706039825645736819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-27640097905356955222011-07-29T07:46:42.543-07:002011-07-29T07:46:42.543-07:00Oh yes, those trannies have fooled 19/20 guys! How...Oh yes, those trannies have fooled 19/20 guys! How imbecilic for those guys, really.Kwehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-24745318366376428242011-07-29T07:45:29.050-07:002011-07-29T07:45:29.050-07:00Nong Poy could probably fool more than 9/10 guys.Nong Poy could probably fool more than 9/10 guys.아저씨https://www.blogger.com/profile/04538192791421107106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-51751603241235827002011-07-29T07:44:43.861-07:002011-07-29T07:44:43.861-07:00Then again, having supersized boobs aren't tha...Then again, having supersized boobs aren't that practical either. Just saying.<br /><br />Back to the Piggy Dolls, I'm really saddened as to how the mainstream K-pop scene has been ignoring them simply for looks.Kwehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-36372630594435530082011-07-29T07:43:28.009-07:002011-07-29T07:43:28.009-07:00Sadly, they can me mistaken for trannies who had s...Sadly, they can me mistaken for trannies who had sex reassignment surgery. And yes, I've seen those people. Good grief, 9/10 guys who saw those trannies mistook them for girls!Kwehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-45981872179035739972011-07-29T07:39:08.322-07:002011-07-29T07:39:08.322-07:00Do Taeyeon and Fei have enough titties for you? I ...Do Taeyeon and Fei have enough titties for you? I could never mistake them for men. Same for Jisook and Noeul.아저씨https://www.blogger.com/profile/04538192791421107106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-4432613980455470702011-07-29T07:33:54.975-07:002011-07-29T07:33:54.975-07:00Yes, being flat-chested is a disqualification for ...Yes, being flat-chested is a disqualification for sexiness since flat-chested girls can sadly be mistaken for gay men.Kwehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-69091654951033325812011-07-29T07:04:42.846-07:002011-07-29T07:04:42.846-07:00Damn, that was one huge message without many parag...Damn, that was one huge message without many paragraph breaks. I still read it, though.<br /><br />I'm starting to think we need to have a "What we're about" page so people can understand. You see, this site isn't trying to change anyone's mind, it's just a safe haven for ranting/criticizing and maybe with a funny twist.<br /><br />If you are realistic about kpop, a lot of it is fucked up. Maybe, as a human being, you want to talk about those things with others in an honest manner. Yet you go to any kpop site, be it a general forum or for a specific group, and you will get your ass jumped by twenty thousand irrational fangirls. This has made the kpop internet a land of delusion and denial, hounding and even banning people who show the slightest bit of honesty rather than 100% praise for everything.<br /><br />So we made this site. We are anti-fangirls in the sense that we hate how they affect the social environment. We know damn well that 98% of them are crazed teenagers, but that doesn't make it any less annoying when we can't talk about what we think, even if it is to each other and not addressing them at all. We can do that here because we do not welcome or pander to fangirls wishes for a happy dreamland, and even beyond this, we may just use this as an outlet for our negative feelings and pour our positive feelings out elsewhere.<br /><br />So there you have it. This site is mostly for us, not you. Unless you feel like bitching or laughing about or criticizing something in the land kpop, then feel free to do so. We'll have discussion about it in the comments section of any article or in our new chatbox.아저씨https://www.blogger.com/profile/04538192791421107106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-24600821796858530282011-07-29T06:48:29.788-07:002011-07-29T06:48:29.788-07:00Venus de Milo is probably somewhere between an A a...Venus de Milo is probably somewhere between an A and a B. That is ideal to me, but A is still good. LOL & good example with Sooyoung. She has even smaller boobs than Taeyeon, like, somehow less than an A cup. Though I think even a B cup would look awkwardly large on her skinny body.<br /><br />But are you saying that being flat disqualifies her from having any sexiness? Or are people actually saying she has nice boobs? I'm confused. It doesn't make any sense to say a girl on the whole is not sexy at all because you don't find one part of her sexy.<br /><br />I'm personally not that into her because I prefer short girls.아저씨https://www.blogger.com/profile/04538192791421107106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-78273361053947559982011-07-29T06:36:36.915-07:002011-07-29T06:36:36.915-07:00Ironic you should talk about "not taking your...Ironic you should talk about "not taking yourself seriously" when you take every little thing you read from fans so seriously.<br />As much as there are a limited few insane fans in Kpop just like in all fandoms... I have yet to meet one in the international forums. When someone writes "best song ever" or "omg so and so is amazing best singer ever" 99% of the time they don't actually mean it. People get excited about things and say something like omg its the best thing ever, how often have I heard people say that about a pizza place or a video game. They don't mean that they actually believe there isn't a better song or a better pizza place in the entire world but you guys use it as evidence of them actually believing that and I think that's exaggeration on your (the site) part. I know there aren't really any singers in kpop (as in idols and such) that can rival Mariah Carey or Lara Fabian but people spazz about what they, personally, like. I don't think math homework is the worst thing in the world but I used to say it alot. And about beauty or what voice sounds good to someone, thats subjective too and just because it might seem odd to you that someone genuinely believes Yoona is the most beautiful person on this planet doesn't mean they are crazy or obsessed. <br />Frankly I don't see how you could demand that I differentiate between one writer and another when many of you writers lump all fans of a group in the same place and when one apparent fan does and says something stupid you call the entire fandom out. Even going as far as insulting the fandom as a group as if we are all responsible for a minority of over-the-top fans, the ones who are serious.<br />Lastly there are some 13 year olds (and under or some over) who take kpop seriously, but they are 13, everything is dramatic and serious at that age. Why expect maturity from pre-pubescent kids? It just seem like this entire thing is about you being annoyed by the way normal kids/teens act.... Older fans, even when they say "omg i love so and so s/he is perfect" they don't actually mean they are 100% without flaws so stop screencaping stuff like that and calling it "evidence".<br />I don't know if you've worked with teenagers but that's what phases are all about, liking something a lot and rebelling when someone tells you its not good, being stubborn until you grow it out and move on. If that's what this site is working against I fear you're wasting your time. Adolescent psychology is unlikely to change anytime soon but unless fans are doing something, immortal, illegal or weird (like sending bloody letters to idols or sending death threats to a singer's girlfriend), all you are doing is criticizing people (many young kids) for liking something and exaggerating about it to their friends on the internet, or what they call life.<br />Forgive me if I just.... don't.....get it.<br /><br />And before i get the typical "if you don't like it get off the site" talk (which sounds like something a kpop fan would say *cough*). As much as these writers have a right to express their opinions, so do I. I'm pointing out what i find silly just as they do with Kpop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-19521253649392540212011-07-29T06:30:13.383-07:002011-07-29T06:30:13.383-07:00To be honest, Venus de Milo IS NOT flat-chested. I...To be honest, Venus de Milo IS NOT flat-chested. I just find it annoying that certain K-pop girls like Sooyoung is called sexy even though she is FLAT.Kwehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-32830129270214356912011-07-29T04:11:03.368-07:002011-07-29T04:11:03.368-07:00@2:43 If you hadn't noticed, there are 13 diff...@2:43 If you hadn't noticed, there are 13 different authors on this site. We all have different views and attitudes. Shin-B is one of our female authors, so I doubt she has ever talked about fapping to kpop girls. Also, sometimes we contradict ourselves for the sake of humor, like my offended-conservative "Sexuality in kpop" article being quickly followed up with excited-liberal "Sexy women in kpop" article even using the same song. It's fun to not take yourself too seriously but also think about life at the same time.<br /><br />@2:47 There reaches a point in weight gain when those shapes and proportions are impossible to have. I was clearly talking about obesity, not the difference between your average healthy girl and extra-skinny kpop idols. That is why I said earlier "There are features the brain looks for which are distorted beyond recognition when a person gains too much weight."<br /><br />@3:48 Well, maybe not FLAT but I prefer smaller, like... Well I guess I'll have to reference something naked yet famous: The Venus de Milo statue. A lot of guys these days would call that flat, but I like it. A lot of Asian girls have breasts like that. That isn't to say I don't notice and enjoy a nice plump pair, like say...Yura, but there is definitely a point where it's too big... like maybe... Jihyun? They catch your eye, but so would a dude's bulge if his pants were too tight. Some things you just notice because it's noticeable.아저씨https://www.blogger.com/profile/04538192791421107106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-43633101368032849752011-07-29T03:48:38.195-07:002011-07-29T03:48:38.195-07:00In the case of the Piggy Dolls, they ACTUALLY KNOW...In the case of the Piggy Dolls, they ACTUALLY KNOW how to stay healthy despite their size. They are unlike just about EVERY K-pop girl group who either looks skinny or has had many a stupid diet.<br /><br />Oh and by the way, having a FLAT chest CAN NEVER be sexy. Anyone who proclaims otherwise is ignorant!Kwehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-77982642335025936302011-07-29T02:47:10.075-07:002011-07-29T02:47:10.075-07:00Size has never psychologically been linked to attr...Size has never psychologically been linked to attraction, shape and proportion have been proved to be much more important. Most notably prominent hips that relay good child bearing in women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-91640501508967806592011-07-29T02:43:51.257-07:002011-07-29T02:43:51.257-07:00pfffft
cause none of the writers on this site talk...pfffft<br />cause none of the writers on this site talk about how much they fap to some girl group member and how often that's the only reason they watch their videos or listen to their music.<br /><br />Hate on the faces of groups like Yoona, Hara and Dara all you want but they are part of the reason those groups are popular and talented people like Gavy NJ, Lady Collection and Brand New Day are ignored. <br /><br />Its what the public wants and what you fap to so its relevant to you. <br /><br />You call people ugly on this site then bash them for getting PS.. so the only way you're happy is if they were born perfect and then of course if they aren't you're "type" they still aren't good enough. <br /><br />When you're oh 17 and thousands of people are pointing out your every flaw on the internet, like you all like to do every now and then about a slightly-bigger-than-the-average-idol or bony celebrity, you tell me if you'd want plastic surgery or not? You'd want to lose weight too and hell i'm glad they lost some weight because there was no way they were healthy... maybe not THIS much but whatever. <br /><br />Point is you guys are huge f*cking hypocrites so don't go telling these girls off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-89765901058980075732011-07-29T01:36:22.576-07:002011-07-29T01:36:22.576-07:00coming from the exact website that bashes on hyoye...coming from the exact website that bashes on hyoyeon, doojoon and others for beigg ugly...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-42755842634006136002011-07-28T23:50:45.090-07:002011-07-28T23:50:45.090-07:00slim from being active is definitly a WHOLE lot se...slim from being active is definitly a WHOLE lot sexier then just slimming to lose extra pounds. I mean....im just drooling just thinking about them....womens volleyball :P<br /><br />Slim body with a toned muscle mass.<br />I am one of those that cried foul on yuri losing them pounds. I wasnt a huge fan of Yuri but I really like the way she looked before, she looked normal. Now after a drastic fat loss, she is looking way to underweight. Seeing her in the last Strongheart episode that she appeared in which was in december or something, she looked awesome, now seeing her in Musicstation when they perform in japan or fancams of the concerts and lives, she is just sticks.RoTaryKnighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10706039825645736819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-72146438592761851662011-07-28T23:09:44.031-07:002011-07-28T23:09:44.031-07:00Unfortunately there is no way to prove this, but I...Unfortunately there is no way to prove this, but I would assume that kissing up to captain moneybags back in the day was different than actual attraction. I am talking about real studies of brain and hormone activity in the body when looking at different types of people, biological responses that transcend culture.<br /><br />I do agree that the same can go with being underweight, just looks at all the guys crying over Yuri these days. I have often wondered how attractive I would find a lot of idols if I were to see them in real life. I'm sure they would still be pretty, but would they be OMG HOT or would it be like OMG TOO SKINNY? I really wonder, and I think the best bet is definitely to be slim from being active rather than purely dieting your way down. Sporty slim is always waaaay hotter and obviously for guys it is the only way to gain the muscles girls like.아저씨https://www.blogger.com/profile/04538192791421107106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-52514490743697256722011-07-28T22:46:50.655-07:002011-07-28T22:46:50.655-07:00Ahjusshi, same thought goes same with the anorexic...Ahjusshi, same thought goes same with the anorexic idols also. People need to take care of themselves better.<br />I partly disagree with the statement of scientifically proven that obesity is unattractive. During the middle ages to the pre-idustrialized age, fat people (not really obese) were considered attractive because it was considered living a leisurely life, only the rich could get fat. Now considering how mass produced the food industry right now anybody can get fat and its not tied only to the rich.<br />But as I said before, people need to take care of themselves more. being underweight is the same thing as being overweight, they both give you health problems, short and long term.<br />I understand where Friglet is coming from, reminds me of the TLC song, Unpretty. Piggy dolls message is pretty much lined up with the meaning of unpretty and the poem it was based on.RoTaryKnighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10706039825645736819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-92010930888816831412011-07-28T21:43:09.060-07:002011-07-28T21:43:09.060-07:00That's the problem with girls, they're so ...That's the problem with girls, they're so worried about emotions that they never deal with the realities that made emotions an issue to begin with.<br /><br />SHE is not unnatural, but her LIFESTYLE is. Yes, it is a complex and difficult thing once it has developed, but the first thing to tackle is the very problem you reinforce simply by phrasing it that way: It is not what she IS, it is what she DOES.<br /><br />Weight comes and goes, it is the stream of calories being stored and used in your body. If you eat the correct things which metabolize into less calories than you burn (an amount which increases from exercise) then you will lose weight. So every day that you do not lose weight is a day you have decided not to do this. It is a thing of action, not a thing of being. Would you hate yourself for getting the flu? No, because you recognize it not as your identity but a temporary biological state. She is hurt by putting her identity into the (hopefully) temporary state of having stored too many calories.<br /><br />Also, the reality that it is not sexy to most people can hurt, but it is a reality. Wanting people to hide the fact that it is completely unattractive to them is wanting them to help you live in denial. Wanting them to validate it as a way of living is asking them to lie. It isn't something like racism where it is just "different" and maybe they aren't used to it. It has been scientifically proven that obesity is unattractive. There are features the brain looks for which are distorted beyond recognition when a person gains too much weight.<br /><br />Now, that isn't to say that all value of a person comes from their level of attractiveness. However, for all purposes that attractiveness play in life, it would be wrong to ask them to change their definition as it isn't up to them. As I already explained, it is part of our biology, truly a part of being human, so you would ask them to deny their humanity for you. That is ridiculous, so if you want the things of life which come with attracting others, you're better off greatly increasing your chances by losing weight.아저씨https://www.blogger.com/profile/04538192791421107106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-67022019299326181682011-07-28T21:04:57.719-07:002011-07-28T21:04:57.719-07:00^when you say it in a more scientific way it makes...^when you say it in a more scientific way it makes sense and you're right. but when you think about it on a more personal level things get a little gray. I wouldn't tell my overweight friend she's "unnatural" and that her eating ways are similar to a "drug addiction". That stuff looks great on paper but when you deal with human emotions you end up sounding like a dick if you say that to someone. The last thing i want to do is make someone i care about sound like shit.<br /><br />As for Piggy Dolls, yes they were over-weight, but the message they gave was nice. In today's world losing weight is not JUST seen as choosing a healthier lifestyle, it goes beyond that. Suddenly, you're inferior because you weigh more and not considered "sexy". Things that come from more of a cultural point of view than a scientific or biological. Piggy Dolls weren't trying to tell girls to stay unhealthy, but trying to give them a bit of encouragement in a society that sees these girls as being lesser than skinnier females. It's just sad that Piggy Dolls themselves fell victim to the very system they were trying to change.friglethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12136789891171022366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-43977676737640145362011-07-28T18:53:08.734-07:002011-07-28T18:53:08.734-07:00That's like saying drugs are natural because w...That's like saying drugs are natural because we make the ingredients from natural sources. Becoming very overweight is unnatural because naturally we are hunter-gatherers. The innovations of agriculture and food processing have allowed us to overindulge our natural instincts for fat/sugar/salt and not even get exercise working hard to acquire them. We can now stockpile and consume them in amounts thousands of times higher than we would have found them in the wild. In fact, the worst offenders aren't even these things by direct intake, but things which break down into them, such as bleached flours, refined sugars, and other empty carbs. It is good that we can prepare things for ourselves, but when we practice no self control and distort foods so far behind their natural state and consume them in amounts far beyond our biological needs, we do an unnatural thing to ourselves.<br /><br />As for the respect part, even being talented doesn't mean you deserve fame. There are hundreds of thousands of extremely talented people, and the ones who become famous do so mostly by luck. As performers, they are trying to make a living by offering absolutely nothing to society except the experience of seeing/hearing them. Thus, that experience had better be pretty damn wonderful, if not by sound then by visual, and preferably a combination of both. The idea of art being a valid use of your life is different in our modern capitalistic societies as opposed to older times when artists would be supported by the king/emperor to enrich the culture.아저씨https://www.blogger.com/profile/04538192791421107106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-50715267691733764832011-07-28T18:37:53.222-07:002011-07-28T18:37:53.222-07:00'Being overweight is unnatural and unhealthy.&...'Being overweight is unnatural and unhealthy.'<br />i agree with the unhealthy part, but how can something that happens naturally be unnatural lol. there are overweight animals in the world too, it's not a man manufactured thing.<br /><br />during Trend i would agree with you that is was bad, but their current weight isn't that bad tbh.<br /><br />on another note, 'talent' is overrated. you can be the most talented person in the world, but if your music sucks, then i'm not going to force myself to listen.<br />i think passion is WAYY more important. if you have talent, but you don't have passion, then you don't get anywhere. but if its vice versa, you still have a shot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-8124215796157626392011-07-28T16:50:57.006-07:002011-07-28T16:50:57.006-07:00It's coo, they'll get praised for being pr...It's coo, they'll get praised for being pretty in Korea and not vocals. Then when they try to expand to say America we have nooooo problem calling Bullshit right to their faces asap. That was we are rude and honest. You'd never see Park Kahi say on twitter "got damn Goo hara can't sing for shiggity shit!" lol But in America land of free speech it's no holds barred we call out people left right center on twitter/tmz/tv where ever. Fuck respect (age/time in music). If you don't got talent that will quickly be brought right tha fucks up sooooo I'm not worried in due time.. In due time, just work hard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com