tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post7053565824398172404..comments2024-03-04T04:35:00.320-08:00Comments on Anti Kpop-Fangirl: CRAYON PUNKNayeon's Vibratorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00084865239924176871noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-12258316036349288042014-03-03T09:18:04.687-08:002014-03-03T09:18:04.687-08:00Their pre-debut days maybe, because they even had ...Their pre-debut days maybe, because they even had that Coin Jackson reject with them, but ever since their debut MV... I didn't take that one seriously, yet, most of the ones who watched back in the day were freshened because it was the year with like 5 debuts per day and all girl group were trying too hard while CP were goofying around in Osaka.<br /><br />What I like from them is that they don't take themselves seriously, yet, they do deliver catchy tunes, and they make you have fun. They're not cute but absurd, they're really Da-Da and Punk if you please.From MCG to O-Reihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17467905989359808754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-71802912912642640192014-03-01T14:24:38.126-08:002014-03-01T14:24:38.126-08:00"The Ramones lost their way when they embrace..."The Ramones lost their way when they embraced the rules in order to get that one hit record they previously deserved." - not true, they embraced the rules wholeheartedly right from the start. That was always the point of The Ramones.<br /><br />Yes I actually read all that. Go to bed.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-59872084952280453052014-03-01T13:17:31.455-08:002014-03-01T13:17:31.455-08:00Aw come on. You might as well embrace them. You kn...Aw come on. You might as well embrace them. You know you want to. If a topic likes this elicits such a strong response, than I suspect an internal struggle going on. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15308739830800872636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-7345262204929224662014-03-01T05:59:39.514-08:002014-03-01T05:59:39.514-08:00After having this link forwarded to me by an onlin...After having this link forwarded to me by an online acquaintance, I have been awake all night exploring Crayon Pop and the genre they are redefining. Uncles should not be allowed to stay up all night.<br />This comment is left by a fellow approaching 50 who from the ages of 16 until 30 or so was a part of the "American Hardcore", or post-punk scene. I'm shocked at how much of that music, much of which your typical readers will never know, just doesn't hold up. I stopped paying attention when the utterly bleak worldview no longer corresponded to the world I was observing. The core ethic was and is eternal. The music, hosting of shows and camaraderie of those years was merely my section of my generation's introduction to it. <br />The Ramones lost their way when they embraced the rules in order to get that one hit record they previously deserved. The operating theory of punk, new wave, post-punk and such that immediately followed into the 1990s was to take the methods of the previous generation embraced by a current generation of musicians and bend them. In the internet age, this also includes other forms such as stand-up comedy, documentaries, puppetry and possibly hundreds of other forms my generation would have embraced had music not been the default creative form for the angst-ridden youth.<br />My comprehension of K-Pop (sp?) specifically is minimal. I understand that the essence of it, specifically the subgenre of Korean popular music for which English speakers use that term, is similar to the Motown star factory of the 50s and 60s. Talented people are somehow recruited into an "entertainment company", arranged into groups, then the groups are signed to a record label and are available for other purposes as a unit. Other aspects involve a coherent look, extremely simplified music that can be produced on a single (showing my age I will call it a) synthesizer. What little of the MVs I have seen are all zealously overproduced and clearly more important than the musical elements, a situation which isn't exclusive to Korean pop to be certain.<br />I may be making unwarranted assumptions, but it superficially appears that K-Pop has hit a point where the focus groups and "network notes" have created a shade of beige with which all acts must be painted. Everyone is the same. That the members of Crayon Pop are different heights is evolutionary. That they embrace the forms of K-Pop (including band or personality uniforms, the perception of availability to their fans, every song having its own dance, and probably lots of things I haven't picked up on) and care enough to bend them in novel ways is revolutionary.<br />Every musical group has its own mythology. The Crayon Pop story is the manufactured band who could not "make it" doing what everyone is supposed to do and nearly brought their company to ruination. Out of desperation and without the tools you are supposed to use took their performances to the streets, devised novel costumes possibly parodying the idea of band uniforms, and started to bring their own presumably authentic interests and personalities to the fore. I have no trouble believing Bar Bar Bar was a desperation ploy. I have less trouble believing the company consciously avoided the rules and the girls just wanted to have some fun. To not be somber and slick in this age is revolutionary, and if you'll pardon the term, punk as fuck. I really need to go to bed but I think I'm going to catch up on the subs of Crayon Pop TV.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-7230456235218158052014-02-28T23:14:33.559-08:002014-02-28T23:14:33.559-08:00you mad bro? lolyou mad bro? lolAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07094051181009554455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-10473835151412062522014-02-28T22:24:27.242-08:002014-02-28T22:24:27.242-08:00what the fuck are you doing this page is so ridicu...what the fuck are you doing this page is so ridiculous!!....<br />''A'' FUCK HATERS!!https://www.blogger.com/profile/01487517029538448742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-86990832142099390572014-02-28T22:17:58.447-08:002014-02-28T22:17:58.447-08:00I saw that and I was thinking, that's a bae.
...I saw that and I was thinking, that's a bae.<br /><br />But then Manber came into my screen and I didn't have enough time to prepare myself so I closed it. <br /><br />I like Barbarbar, and i like Crayon Pop, I just don't like 1,2,3,4. MichelinObamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17984070243452721446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-39534879975924470342014-02-28T18:05:12.334-08:002014-02-28T18:05:12.334-08:00Yeha it's crazy! So odd how people throw the &...Yeha it's crazy! So odd how people throw the 'indie' term around. Nell are on SM (via Woollim), making commercial rock music, and are massively popular... there's nothing 'indie' about them, either musically or in a business sense.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-46090355128512996132014-02-28T11:51:59.485-08:002014-02-28T11:51:59.485-08:00Nell is the most popular rock band in Korea (Buske...Nell is the most popular rock band in Korea (Busker Busker doesn't count as rock, but even if they were, Nell is still more popular) and Nell is considered an indie group.Nayeon's Vibratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00084865239924176871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-71721887109715161632014-02-28T08:40:25.571-08:002014-02-28T08:40:25.571-08:00The CEO is totally fucking punk. The guy couldn...The CEO is totally fucking punk. The guy couldn't get his girls on TV? Fuckit! Let's film them on the streets and shit and put up Crayon Pop TV episodes on Youtube. Couldn't get gigs? Fuckit, let's go to Japan, or China, or shit.<br /><br />There is definitely a delightful sense of everyone involved with Crayon Pop not having a clue of how to do things the "Right," way -- they even tried at the start to just do it like a typical girl group. But when it wasn't working, they just came up with whatever they could to get their name out there, even if it meant holding signs and shit.<br /><br />I like that. <br /><br />I mean, it wouldn't mean a thing if the music wasn't also as catchy as hell... but since it is, it's nice that they're also fun as heck to watch.<br />--Andrew S.Andrew Sorohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01377620456453176431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-38368732473000408452014-02-28T01:33:27.355-08:002014-02-28T01:33:27.355-08:00actually their CEO started his Chrome company and ...actually their CEO started his Chrome company and Crayon Pop because of T-Ara Roly Poly... Even though im not into T-Ara, but i have soft spot for them, if not because of them, Crayon Pop will not exist today lol..<br /><br />Im really love Crayon Pop <3Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07094051181009554455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-84120903308091901872014-02-27T22:27:51.078-08:002014-02-27T22:27:51.078-08:00If Crayon Pop is good enough for Eunjung it's ...If Crayon Pop is good enough for Eunjung it's good enough for me.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-79876159129639789102014-02-27T22:12:13.414-08:002014-02-27T22:12:13.414-08:00eunjung having too much fun lol, I was kinda expec...eunjung having too much fun lol, I was kinda expecting she would fall down or somethingRealJWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10191899504695505092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-65304074670343632082014-02-27T21:59:15.283-08:002014-02-27T21:59:15.283-08:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kVGlLYqaKIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kVGlLYqaKIKpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-26025765240007889982014-02-27T21:50:52.719-08:002014-02-27T21:50:52.719-08:00It wasn't me who mentioned the off-key vocals ...It wasn't me who mentioned the off-key vocals but someone on my ask. The dance move, I only pointed that out because I knew if I didn't someone else would have pointed it out and duly missed the point.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-30349876970868218692014-02-27T21:34:32.467-08:002014-02-27T21:34:32.467-08:00Still a shit fucking song.
But that is just MY op...Still a shit fucking song.<br /><br />But that is just MY opinion. All the more power to you for liking it, someone has to I guess. It's kind of like how I stan for T-ara and would not mind at all if they just literally released a track of Hyomin farting mixed with eunjung whispering "Unnie Style" for 6 minutes straight. Literally would tell everyone that the song is the most inspirational record ever produced in K-pop and how it tells a story about T-ara coming from nothing and rising from the ashes like a phoenix. <br /><br />Also, hated 2ne1 and Soshi's new album/song. GROSS.<br /><br />Netizens were so right: "IF T-ara had released Mr. Mr. it would have flopped, but because it's SNSD, it's doing well." I guess some of them aren't delulu after all.MichelinObamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17984070243452721446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-3117446637177975432014-02-27T21:26:16.335-08:002014-02-27T21:26:16.335-08:00Yeah I don't really get the attractiveness of ...Yeah I don't really get the attractiveness of almost all SM group dances, they are too complicated and sometime just comes off as trying to hard for me.<br /><br />ORANGE CARAMEL IS COMING BACKRealJWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10191899504695505092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-86896786139839859592014-02-27T21:17:11.571-08:002014-02-27T21:17:11.571-08:00Roly Poly's simplicity is its strength. When ...Roly Poly's simplicity is its strength. When DJing a k-pop night Roly Poly always packs the dance floor because lots of people can do that dance without too much trouble. Same with Crayon Pop's dances. Put on something from SHINee on the other hand and there's like only one or two people up there.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-5028914401780465972014-02-27T21:06:26.825-08:002014-02-27T21:06:26.825-08:00I so agree with you on the basic singing and danci...I so agree with you on the basic singing and dancing, I like to dance along with these songs because you just can't not dance to it really.<br /><br />I guess this is also a factor that makes 'Roly Poly' popular, the singalong-ability of the song, sure the dance doesn't seem too simple, but I learned it by watching it for just a bit. This also applies to songs like 'Abracadabra', 'Love Options', 'Gangnam Style', etc.<br /><br />I guess in the end what people really like is effortless fun, which I think defines Crayon Pop well.RealJWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10191899504695505092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-34717250115233646492014-02-27T20:24:23.242-08:002014-02-27T20:24:23.242-08:00If you're even noticing stuff like this you...If you're even noticing stuff like this you're missing the whole point of the article.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-81937181042459112092014-02-27T19:21:14.058-08:002014-02-27T19:21:14.058-08:00This is true, but then even the biggest labels hav...This is true, but then even the biggest labels have startup stories like that. I also find it silly when people are against big corporations by default - how did they think those corporations GOT to be big in the first place? They grew because people liked what they were doing so they were able to expand the business.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-79260484631456696612014-02-27T18:50:49.334-08:002014-02-27T18:50:49.334-08:00Another thing to keep in mind is that when discuss...Another thing to keep in mind is that when discussing K-Pop acts as "puppets" of their label, Crayon Pop and Chrome Entertainment are quite a different story from the big, established, monolithic K-Pop music companies. Until the success of "Bar Bar Bar," Crayon Pop and Chrome Entertainment were one and the same; the girls were just the faces and voices in front of the camera, and everyone else was behind the scenes of their sole operation--a company founded by a guy with no music business experience, using seed money made by selling off his photo equipment. That, too, is punk. :)mikejonashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08656551170111350072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-34533657212934723362014-02-27T18:13:06.400-08:002014-02-27T18:13:06.400-08:00I don't even consider "indie" a genr...I don't even consider "indie" a genre at all. The word doesn't have any musical meaning, most "indie" groups are musically actually pop, rock, rap or something similar. The word "indie" doesn't have any meaning as a business term either - in these days where most "independent" labels are imprints of majors or use major label distribution channels. People use the word "indie" to describe groups like Radiohead who have masses of dollars and mega budgets... I even saw U2 get called "indie" once. Proof that the term has no meaning.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-14047568658306955862014-02-27T18:10:00.923-08:002014-02-27T18:10:00.923-08:00Punk pretty much invented the modern concept of in...Punk pretty much invented the modern concept of indie.Michael Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15362355537035887367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-51469803598665706612014-02-27T15:59:36.147-08:002014-02-27T15:59:36.147-08:00Yeah I've been using HTML. Because the auto-l...Yeah I've been using HTML. Because the auto-linker is such a pain, what I've done is just inserted a random video with the autolinker, changed to html, changed the width to suit, copied the code, and then just edited the 4M1XuHJmaJk to whatever video I want to display.<br /><br />I'll try your method and see how I go!Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.com