tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post6993675981655651281..comments2024-03-04T04:35:00.320-08:00Comments on Anti Kpop-Fangirl: Chocolate Love - marketing 101 for deluded k-pop fansNayeon's Vibratorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00084865239924176871noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-74158282140526420502014-01-31T05:20:41.233-08:002014-01-31T05:20:41.233-08:00Yeah you bet your ass they were over the moon abou...Yeah you bet your ass they were over the moon about landing a CF deal. "Finally, some money!"Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-6585037692948029332014-01-29T14:51:28.830-08:002014-01-29T14:51:28.830-08:00Really interesting, thank you, have learnt a lot t...Really interesting, thank you, have learnt a lot thanks to you ^^<br />I just made me understand a lot of thing for example about EXO, it reminded me the obvious ad in the middle of their last MV (some cosmetics brand). Then I realized that since they're so popular they filming a lot of CF (mobile network, cosmetic, chocolate, school uniforms, etc) and remembered how happy they were to be advertise the cosmetic brand. I thought it was overdone but now everything makes sense >.<Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11165952340949357986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-52165463806549923852014-01-14T02:31:56.285-08:002014-01-14T02:31:56.285-08:00Yes I am, and no they're not.Yes I am, and no they're not.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-91642564497661727092014-01-12T07:18:29.145-08:002014-01-12T07:18:29.145-08:00Are you an artist to know that? Some parts are wro...Are you an artist to know that? Some parts are wrong. ask actual artist. jooriee_exo12https://www.blogger.com/profile/04891489104055262369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-87512438220311737412014-01-09T20:27:46.005-08:002014-01-09T20:27:46.005-08:00Great article. Y'all should also take a look a...Great article. Y'all should also take a look at the manga Sun-Ken Rock where in one arc, the protagonist becomes a manager of a new k-pop girl group. It addresses many of the issues above while also traveling into the more gritty aspects of the music industry.<br />Other than that, keep up the good writing.datdudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17678044737337579641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-76046674987991218522014-01-09T08:07:15.393-08:002014-01-09T08:07:15.393-08:00Me too! Because of that now I fap everytime I shav...Me too! Because of that now I fap everytime I shave (sometimed using the same hand)!ziodonatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00766454875826293769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-25239879624312972782014-01-09T06:40:37.301-08:002014-01-09T06:40:37.301-08:00I have always been wondering about this for years....I have always been wondering about this for years. Thanks oppar. Now I can die in peace.Sunmi's Anal Beadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09795042427485722111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-11070617005014875752014-01-09T01:11:11.387-08:002014-01-09T01:11:11.387-08:00I bought the latest Gilette shaving knives back th...I bought the latest Gilette shaving knives back then after I saw this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogsJK9-Ky3U<br /><br />So, I was successfully being a good consumer at a specific "Minkyung Shelves"..Cumikepohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08674097960880796380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-2777702364329938372014-01-08T18:37:47.052-08:002014-01-08T18:37:47.052-08:00but I guess going back on your previous point in t...but I guess going back on your previous point in the article, most of them probably view idol stardom as a launching pad (or business card) for other ventures and other industries, where they probably hope to establish legitimacy at some point.<br /><br />But man, that is a tough road. ftghbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12305905060378868270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-81598214230076767952014-01-08T18:30:19.554-08:002014-01-08T18:30:19.554-08:00@Kpopalypse Yes, but based on first hand idol acco...@Kpopalypse Yes, but based on first hand idol accounts of how many years of training and commitment it takes before they even get to make a debut, it sounds like they are severely mortgaging BASIC education needs for the minuscule chance for a decent short term gain. (And I'm not even discounting the possibility that they get so screwed up that they go the full-on Michael Jackson route, and become homosexual pedos in their late 40's)<br /><br />And by the sound of the article, even if they happen to make it big, they are still severely hamstrung by the heavy-handed parent companies. Not to mention, idols in general have a short shelf life compared to other professions. At least in other glamour industries (like actors for example), there is a potential for long term sustainability. ftghbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12305905060378868270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-26352256695575345892014-01-08T15:43:50.116-08:002014-01-08T15:43:50.116-08:00This was very interesting. Must say, you've op...This was very interesting. Must say, you've opened my eyes to a lot of the strategies the industry pulls all for the money. In there case it really is all about the won. I feel sort of bad for the people in the music industry, but at least if they stick it out for a couple of years they can negotiate. But still the base is kind of… dark.GONEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10580157073505854597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-6709576483256027192014-01-08T13:30:26.342-08:002014-01-08T13:30:26.342-08:00I knew that companies and idols made most of their...I knew that companies and idols made most of their money from endorsements, but I never really understood it that way. I always feel a bit more knowledgeable after reading one of your industry/music analysis articles.CitrusPartyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428955323979721477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-24177366358091100192014-01-08T13:00:48.977-08:002014-01-08T13:00:48.977-08:00Assume none until you read an article about them b...Assume none until you read an article about them buying something.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-91238336568307039522014-01-08T12:59:49.195-08:002014-01-08T12:59:49.195-08:00I believe they are doing that WHILE they are tryin...I believe they are doing that WHILE they are trying to be an idol, so they can make money which isn't factored into the debt.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-10849036571345956062014-01-08T12:01:41.552-08:002014-01-08T12:01:41.552-08:00Interesting article, thanks. I'd like to know ...Interesting article, thanks. I'd like to know how much idols make, the only time I saw an amount mentioned was on the EXO section of that BBC documentary. <br />I don't mean the likes of Big Bang or SNSD but the groups that are semi-successful. I heard so many stories of members barely making what would be minimum wage here and I'm curious to know if it really is that bad. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-65545951442924768572014-01-08T10:08:28.693-08:002014-01-08T10:08:28.693-08:00I remember a person who worked in the Korean enter...I remember a person who worked in the Korean entertainment industry had mentioned idols who flopped working in hostess bars and clubs and even as prostitutes to pay off their contract debts to their agencies.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15308739830800872636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-71559773012100435382014-01-08T09:05:07.248-08:002014-01-08T09:05:07.248-08:00I just learned from my mom not so long ago how sup...I just learned from my mom not so long ago how supermarkets operate after wondering why a certain product isn't displayed on a specific supermarket, and you're spot on in your explanation. That's why I like reading your stuff.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00099327518871102046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-18531736777522246322014-01-08T07:02:11.602-08:002014-01-08T07:02:11.602-08:00As a fellow Australian, I used to buy those noodle...As a fellow Australian, I used to buy those noodles before B2st were on them, and they're actually quite good in comparison to most instant noodles. Noodles aside though, everything in this article makes perfect sense, especially the supermarket and shelf-space parts, since all my local supermarkets have the exact same lay-out. I also find it interesting when the CF money becomes a platform for the idol instead of a platform for the product. For example. 2NE1's Dara sure as hell needed some kind of claim to fame in that already popular group, but once she had been a model for Etude, she was finally individually a somebody in the Korean public's eyes and has made her way to the top as the most popular member in Korea. Don't even get me started on how perfectly named this article is either, in helping my point. SM was smart with their marketing, "oh, you want this SNSD song? Well how about this shiny new f(x) song to go with it?" and sure enough f(x)'s next song (Nu ABO) was a hit, especially compared to their first two singles. CF's make the product more popular, and in a lot of cases, the idol more popular too.WatermelonIsaachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08889935528570938442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-51644106807069714602014-01-08T06:35:15.127-08:002014-01-08T06:35:15.127-08:00So glad to hear and keep up your good work.So glad to hear and keep up your good work.thegermanguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07345359446576577202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-10622919051658168002014-01-08T05:00:47.083-08:002014-01-08T05:00:47.083-08:00I couldn't figure it out. I'm sure there&...I couldn't figure it out. I'm sure there's a way. Someone more blog-designed inclined like Akisame might know how.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-91738311250521445282014-01-08T04:37:49.436-08:002014-01-08T04:37:49.436-08:00you could put in in a table and make the borders w...you could put in in a table and make the borders white, or does blogger not allow that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-72254688540772382872014-01-08T04:29:03.841-08:002014-01-08T04:29:03.841-08:00i think she/he's asking bout magazines and stu...i think she/he's asking bout magazines and stuff. <br /><br />this other thing works too, CF from shoots are product endorsements too. So yeah they work too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03505280597113029688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-12937243522420264452014-01-08T04:24:13.837-08:002014-01-08T04:24:13.837-08:00Thanks!Thanks!Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-48763360540730510922014-01-08T04:15:17.946-08:002014-01-08T04:15:17.946-08:00This article is so fucking good, that i wish i was...This article is so fucking good, that i wish i was the one who wrote it. <br /><br />(insert citizen kane's applause gif)<br /><br />Freeman_c14https://www.blogger.com/profile/12700243221289611560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1104650668609735792.post-955810872391767092014-01-08T04:14:39.350-08:002014-01-08T04:14:39.350-08:00Yeah, if there were lots of returns the person I k...Yeah, if there were lots of returns the person I knew would sit down with the franchise head and work out the problem over lunch... that she would pay for.Kpopalypsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485316114199989423noreply@blogger.com