Sunday, June 26, 2011

Rant: Useless Members

Idol groups tend to have talented members and not so talented members. They coexist. In any given group you can name someone that can sing well (Taeyeon) and at the same time name a useless member (Yoona). While some members may be useless musically they might be useful in other categories, like eye-candy. This leads me to my rant...

Why the hell are members that aren't useful at all in idol groups? My first example is Shindong from Super Junior. It's not like they don't already have a shit load of useless members, and at least some of them are easy on the eyes. God he needs to get the fuck out of Super Junior. His fat ass can't sing, dance, or anything. He should just be a comedian like te other fat Koreans. Hyoyeon is also anothe useless member I find extremely annoying. She's so fugly and can't sing to save her life. D-fans (delusional fans as to not be confused with douche-fans) like to believe she is some dancing queen but she's pretty average.

It might seem like I'm picking on SM groups, but it's just because they generally have very useless members in their groups.

To keep it short, other members I find annoyingly useless are: Sulli (f(x)), Sohee (Wonder Girls), KwangHaeng (Coed), Kwanghee (ZEA), etc.


Who else am I missing?

92 comments:

  1. the only one who is actually annoyingly useless is kwanghee. guy is fucking ugly even with all the plastic surgery.

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  2. chansung and dara. people would argue that she's the most popular but lolno it's all about bom in korea

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  3. the useless members probably just come from Korea's collectivist society. assuming the author is from a western culture, we're so focused on the individual instead of group that it's hard for us to fully understand that i think ._.

    but anyway, one member i find useless is Suzy. i know she's supposed to be the most popular, but she's not that pretty, her voice is average and her dancing can't keep up with the other girls.

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  4. Yea anyone who has watch a suju dance stage KNOWS SHINDONG is a good dancer even better than some skinny people in the group i think he's the 3rd best dancer in SJ.....And even i don't like SNSD but i know Hyoyeon is a good dancer (most female idol dancers just do sexy but she can do that and even popping{now go tell who u think is good to do that})
    As for Sohee and Kwanghee they really are useless....Don't know Coed members (irrelevant) but isn't Sulli like the main visual of F(x) or am i wrong......

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    1. No, Sulli isn't really a good dancer either, therefore Victoria is visual for fx. It's weird how people say that 'Yoona is overated' 'Yoona can't sing' but at least she can dance. I never hear about Sulli being 'overated' while she can't sing nor dance....

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  5. As useless as Dara seems, she does raise the popularity of 2NE1 in the Philippines if anything

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  6. there's always Uee from After School

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  7. ^
    ^ that's really no different from any other useless idol having a large international fanbase (alexander, hyoyeon, etc.)

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  8. Taeyeon has more of the whole package to be honest. Her being an idol makes fans see her differently (or "deluded), I suppose. Cute face, popular idol group, over average singing abilities ---> why people think she's a better singer than non-idols.

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  9. Eh? Suzy the most useless?
    Girl can sing, go watch their live performance Blankly (or Dazed, whatever you want to call it).

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  10. Most of the dudes in Co-ed

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  11. I think Dara is the queen of Useless Group Member (in regards to being an artist. She excels in many other things... just not what's important in a music career). Pretty much anyone with the title of "the face" (*cough* Sulli) seems pretty useless for an artist since they usually can't sing or dance. They are generally very pretty though, so maybe they're better off leaving the music industry and just going into acting or modelling or guest starring in variety shows.

    And as much as I love After School and T-ara, I think Uee, Lizzy, and Jooyeon are kinda useless in AS as they are probably better off doing other things like acting. I also do not really see how Qri, Boram, or Hwayoung add to T-ara.

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  12. @Shin-B while in a musical aspect I agree with Your opinion about AS and t-ara but generally speaking for an idol group those members are eye candy or faces. They have somewhat more usefulness to them then the people I find to be even more useless than faces.

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  13. I give up on sohee It still baffles me how she was accepted into jyp ent..O.o

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  14. minho is useless but at least hes goodlooking and his the most popular member in shinee in kore (internationally, he is like the least of all shawols lists) D:

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  15. It's easy to find useless members in SM groups because you can form a fucking football team with the amount of members in each group.

    Super Junior: Shindong, Heechul
    SNSD: Hyoyeon
    f(x): Sulli, Manber. (They don't need a rapper who only gets two lines per song.)
    Wonder Girls: Sohee
    2PM: Nichkhun (Idc what anyone says. He can't sing or dance for shit.)
    2NE1: Depends on what song they're doing and what they're promoting.
    After School: UEE
    SHINee: Minho

    The list could go on.

    It would be easier to list the groups who don't have a useless member, like BEG, 8Eight, or Davichi.

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  16. T-ara's Boram is one of the most useless member, she can't sing nor dance and is not even an eye candy.

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  17. Most of Kara is pretty useless

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  18. all idol groups are useless . They are mostly eye candy that can sing better then most people. Most members are just backup dancers that have maybe 1 or 2 lines if they're lucky.

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  19. it's pretty much required to have useless members... look at CSJH, they don't have useless members, where are they now?

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  20. 80% of the idols in K-pop are goddamn useless when it comes to contributing to the group's musical attributes. However the majority of these 'useless' members actually make more money than the most 'useful' members through CF deals + dramas etc, the companies have a reason as to why they put untalented pretty faces...someone's gotta bring in the dough after all.

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  21. You're baaaack!

    Hyoyeon is the most useless imo. Not pleasing to the eye, can't sing, and popping and locking is useless for a girl group's choreography.

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  22. ^ worse than useless; detrimental. she photobombs all their otherwise wonderful group photos. dammit!

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  24. ^
    ^
    ^agree
    kwangheng and sulli are pretty after all. dont see the uselessness.
    about shindong... i think he is the one who makes the difference between super junior and just an average boygroup with many members. its like in kindergarten. when the "pretty" boys allow the unloved fatty to play with them. as the kindergarten-teacher sees that she wont think "im so happy for the little fatty that he finally found some friends" but she will think "those pretty boys are really some nice kids to let him play with them".
    the fatty makes the whole group appear more natural and kind if that makes sense, because he is more obviously than other idols just a normal person. also cause fatties have the image to be nice somehow. dont know why. and if you have some members with strong arrogant tendencies or arrogant charisma you need a counterbalance.
    and other than that super junior are mostly an entertainment-group in general so they need a comedian as much as an decent singer.
    just my opinion.

    i cant really understand the fight about so called useless members in general.
    they have fans so they are unsefull imo.
    and amber? really? i cant stand her but girl/whateversheis has a ton of fans. i wont say the most because i dont know about korea, but internationally she definitely is the most popular.

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  25. yoona is useless too

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  26. I'd say SUNNY is more useless than hyoyeon...can't sing nor dance and is not even that popular...i dont think yoona is useless...her role is the face and c'mon...you need pretty people or the ones that are making the group known through any means possible (kwanghee)...they're not that useless...not everything is about singing and dancing.
    I also agree about boram, qri, hwayoung and jooyeon....WTF are they doing???? oh well whatever...i bet they get paid shit anyways so meh.

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  27. ^sunny can sing decent actually, its not her fault there are too many members in that group to showcase her vocals
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1ptmDbNcpY
    her voice is pitchy and shaky at times, but its still not useless.. she has a nice voice.

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  28. hyewon co-ed /5dolls she cant sing or rap for shitz

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  29. ^
    but hyewon is so pretty *__*

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  30. i just stumbled across your blog and i love it! i enjoy reading your posts.
    you know, i listen to korean music but i'm not in any fandoms or stuff like that. i enjoy the music and thats it.
    but most of the fans are kind of.. stupid, because they live for kpop and nothing else. to cut a long story short, i am absolutely in love with your blog! :) KEEP DOING!

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  31. ^ http://antikpopfangirl.blogspot.com/2011/05/i-now-know-reason-why-i-think-hyewon-is.html

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  32. Half of the SNSD, 2PM, f(x) and Super Junior members are pretty useless.
    Shinee's Minho is also useless imo but I know fangirls are crazy abt him thanks to his "handsome" face (eventhough I personally don't even find him handsome).
    2NE1's Dara is quite useless too and so are Wondergirl's Sohee, After School's Nana and Uee, 4minute's Jihyun and Kara's Hara.
    Most (if not all) of the boys (I dnt even know their names) in Co-Ed are useless as well.

    And just so you know, when I say useless I'm talking in term of talent contribution. I don't call being cute/sexy/pretty or being the "face" of the group a talent. Even being a good dancer/actor/actress is not enough, when you pretend to be a singer you have to be a good singer first, being a good dancer/actor/actress as well is just a bonus.

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  33. hyewon looks like a guy without makeup

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  34. ^
    THANK YOU. I always facepalm when I point out the fact that an idol can't sing and his/her fangirls (mostly Elfs and Sones) answer me stuffs like "but he/she is funny" or "he is a good MC". They are singers and can't sing, I don't give a fuck if they are "funny", "entertaining" or whatever, don't call yourself a singer if you suck at singing =_=

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  35. I agree, qri, boram and hwayoung are useless!
    But damn 4minute Jiyun is sooooo useless,she's ugly, she can't sing, and her dance pfff, I don't like her! Cube ent. must kick out this burden!

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  36. ^ Anon 11:36, those groups never claimed themselves to be a singing group. They are teen idols. Still, that doesn't mean that you get to be a complete fail at singing.

    ^ Anon 12:52 Is it JiHyun or JiYoon that you think is useless?

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  37. Anon 11:04
    I'm talking about Jihyun.

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  38. Delusional ass ShitnEE fans on 6theory forum saying that Minho is not useless, hypocrisy at best. Get the sticks out of your biases ass for a second and be realistic please.

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  39. ^ Lol I like SHINee but yeah Minho is useless and a waste of space. Sadly his ability to make girls wet themselves is all that matters.

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  40. UEE is definitely a useless piece of shit. she can't dance or sing and her face looks overly Botoxed. she doesn't even have a hot bod , where is all this "Honey Thigh" shit coming from ? E-Young is pretty worthless too (at least so far... time will tell.)

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  41. @ anon at 10:59 pm
    Nana is not useless.. she can sing just fine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJklJjlEK5w

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  42. "most of kara is useless"

    truth be told. none of them can sing LOL .. no lead vocal list, no nothing.

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  43. looks like 6:35 is a stereotypical delusional fan LOL. that video pretty much proved that Nana can't sing to save her life. the only reason i didn't add her to my list is because she brings in the fanboys for AS

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  44. ^ you're delusional. Nana isnt a bad singer but she isnt a great either, she's just avarage

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  45. Shindong. of course. i remember him saying bad things and stereotyping ( aside his inability to sing and dance )

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  46. I know I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this (knowing how crazy Cassies can be) but imo Yunho is useless. He was already useless when DBSK were still five and now that they're only 2 it's even more obvious. Changmin should have gone solo instead, YH is holding him back (I just hope he won't be "heading to the ground" because of him and the shitty songs SM are giving them).
    Most members in SM's groups are useless.
    Dara is useless as well as most members in 2PM and Kara.

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  47. @ Anon 6:18
    ARE YOU KIDDING! Yunho useless, i don't agree sorry! I'm not delusional but wtf Yunho is great and he improves a lot! The same with AS Nana, she improve more and more in singing and dancing.

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  48. T-ara's BORAM, QRI and HWAYOUNG!!!! Just kick them out, then t-ara will be more better.

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  49. Chansung and Goo Hara are like the textbook definition of useless in the dictionary.

    But then again at least in Chansung's defense, he belongs to 2pm which is a pointless idol group which doesn't require talent anyways so being pointless in that group doesn't mean much, especially when you have like 3 other members in that group who are equally pointless.

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  50. Sunny, Hyoyeon, Yoona, Sooyoung, Tiffany's voice is masculine and mediocre, Jessica sings nasally and can't hold a tune, and Yuri are all useless and contribute nothing to the group. They have way more useless members than every other idol group in kpop, yet people still consider as the epitome of talent. If SNSD is the epitome of talent, then the gap between talent and shit shouldn't be too far off.

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  51. Anon 5:50 and anon 7:56
    Your comments just made my day hahahahah
    "If SNSD is the epitome of talent, then the gap between talent and shit shouldn't be too far off"

    hahahahaha

    "But then again at least in Chansung's defense, he belongs to 2pm which is a pointless idol group which doesn't require talent anyways so being pointless in that group doesn't mean much, especially when you have like 3 other members in that group who are equally pointless."

    God i love this place.

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  52. Sulli and Minho. I just cant see how they contribute to their groups.

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  53. Manber! She's so useless that it's disgusting!

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  54. fx doesnt need a rapper if he only gets 2 lines, its not even rapping anyways

    Boram is pretty useless

    Hyoyeon is useless

    co ed is a useless group alltogether

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  55. SHINee's Minho is useless; can't sing/rap or dance and he is definitely not eye candy. And Sulli, I dunno how she is the face of fx. When I think of Sulli, all I think of is her blank, "i don't care" expressions. Definitely two people who are useless.

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  56. yunho is useless. useless. useless.
    ahahaha kidding. i just did that to piss someone off

    i think some people here are missing the point, it isn't just about talent. If we're looking for talent in idol groups then we should've paid attention to non-idol performers instead. <.<
    anyway, I agree with hyeoeon (however u spell it) and shindong being useless

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  57. stfu not everyone in Kara is useless. Seung Yeon, Gyuri and Nicole can sing really well in high-notes.

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  58. hyoyeon is useless ... i've seen videos of her dancing and it wasn't even that great as her delusional fans seems to think. Not sure why they put her on the pedestal of dancing queen. Can't even compare to Min(miss a) or minzy(2ne1). Fake fany is pretty useful in SNSD in attracting antis.
    I gotta give it SMent though, for being able to make one of the most useless idol group into their money-making-machine. Truly Supersonic ‘n hypertonic.

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  59. Yunho is a useless piece of turd.. His selling point was purely dancing from the start and his moves are awkward and old. See some of the newer idols like jay park out beats him by like two football fields. Hell even freaking junsu is better than that ugly meat. Oh and don't even get me started on his singing, long story short he sings as if he shits on his pants every time he opens his damn mouth. Ew.

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  60. 2pm all excep junsu, bigbang -seungri, missA- i guess all cos they just piss me off equally. The list i way too long i guess kpop industry need singers like Hongki, Changmin, Yoseob, Jong Hyun, IU, Kyuhyun, Yesung, ryeowook etc to balance up.

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  61. In my opinion each member should freaking have a role. The main roles are:
    Lead singer
    2nd main vocalist (give main a break)
    Dancer
    The face of the group
    Rapper

    There. 5 members. I'll give a little leg room and say possibly 6 but when you get over 6 members, the other people honestly cease to serve a purpose.

    Most useless would Minho

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  62. Minho: can't dance, sing or rap

    Sulli: F(x) doesn't really need her, they have Krystal

    Heechul: Can't sing or dance (insert audition tape here). Hes only there for those in the closet ajusshis in the ent. company

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  63. Manber, Heechul and Jo Kwon; enough said.

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  64. They are useless musically, but usually a group need some people to represent them in the variety shows and shit like that, so they send the funniest or most entertaining.-Jo Kwon, Heechul, Sulli, JESSICA<--- bitch is useless but she is fucking adorable.
    The useless ones are the ones pushed onto a stage to make jokes.

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  65. BEAST Yoseob and Gikwang is definitely good. Yoseob is a freaking cute n good singer n brings in the fangirls. Gikwang's dance, sexy body + abs and dunno what other stuff also attracts fans.
    NANA AND YOONA ARE NOT USELESS. They help bring in fans, like me!
    I would say Na Eun of rookie girl-group A Pink is useless. She only is the face of A Pink. Nothing else. Yes, she helps bring in fans, but not like she gets 60% of fans. I would say Leader Chorong, main vocal Eunji, Lead Dancer Bomi are the best!!!:)

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  66. as far as im concerned i know there's minho, yoona, hyoyeon, a couple girls in after school, the guys in co-ed...
    agreed with that person up above saying its easier to list the people who aren't useless. those people are more often than not the under appreciated members too

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  67. hara. oh wait the whole of kara is useless.

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  68. ^ Yeah the whole kara is useless.

    I agree with anon @11:47, each group do has 'the face of the group' role and it's a waste of space.

    ps: I've just found this blog today. I'm a girl and a fan of one group, but well I like most of your posts. This is interesting! Sorry for my bad english.

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  69. To the few assholes above me: Gyuri, Seungyeon and Jiyoung aren't completely useless. If anything, at least half of them aren't compared to SNSD. Besides Taeyeon and Seohyun, the rest wouldn't have a leg to stand on. And this is supposedly the so-called #1 kpop girl group, which indicates the standards set are pretty low.

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  70. @ 3:21 agreed..I admit even if she is my bias that Hara is pretty useless in terms of singing, but imo she's the best dancer...Nicole for me is the only really useless one, she isn't pretty and her voice is annoying, when singing, talking...anything and she seems like an attention seeker with her over-done reactions and motions; I don't hate the girl I just find her annoying and replaceable which I think the term useless can refer to. Hara isn't useless because i'm betting that out of the 78% male fans they have..40% are hers with Jiyoung and Seungyeon diving the reaming 38% about 20/18; alot of Nicole and Gyuris fans are girls. There is only a matter of time before Jiyoung takes her "third popular spot" because that what Nicole is in Korea "third popular" (not first or second like intl fans will have you believe) and Nicole will be about as popular as Gyuri aka not popular...but like you said, Gyuri is useful to the group since she can hold a tune. And like you said, 3/5 aint bad..passing grade isn't it?..2/9 is failure.

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  71. SNSD are the overrated queens, but well they made entertainment companies know that pretty legs sell well. I think that's how the useless members trend started.
    Half of T-ara are useless. Kara is useless.
    Sohee doesn't have any talent besides her aegyo, but that's what brought most of wonderfuls so ...

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  72. I agree with all of KARA being useless.

    Dara. I fucking hate this chick. Can't sing. can't dance, and has the body of a malnourished Romanian orphan. People say UEE is useless and again I agree but at least the girl is hot. Dara is probably the most untalented human to ever be represented by YG. I forever hate Kahi and May Doni for leaving YG and giving this bitch a spot in 2NE1. She completely fucked up the whole group.

    Sohee - All of WG are talent-less boring hags but this bitch is the worst by far, At least her face is an abomination like that Lim chick.

    Only idol groups with no useless irrelevant members are DBSK, Big Bang, 2AM and Brown Eyed Girls.

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  73. ^dara isnt useless in 2ne1. That bitch you talkin about rakes money in yg

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  74. But dara fans are the worst of the 2NE1 ones, just like jiyeon's.

    I've got to say that one entertainment company did well, U-KISS kicked the two guys for good. They had the worst vocals and weren't that handsome. Their replacements made U-KISS'music a level higher.

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  75. LOL HAHHAAHAHAH. Laughed so hard when you talked about Shindong I almost spit my drink over my computer.

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  76. I must say that I disagree with your statement that Shindong can't sing or dance, or 'anything'.

    He is one of the best dancers of Super Junior along with Eunhyuk and Donghae, and they are very good dancers.

    I also find him quite a good rapper. I suppose there are those that don't qualify rap as singing, but I personally do.

    It's true that he's not the most attractive person in the group, but from what I've seen, he has other qualities that make up for it. Such as his personality. I adore watching variety shows with (solely) Super Junior (and thus Shindong) in them because they never fail to make me laugh. I don't view them as a group that solely makes music, but also does

    I don't really know much about the other people you mentioned as I'm not that into K-POP. There are very few groups that I like. I also only watch and listen stuff that is a bit older (2005-2010), as I don't really like the direction where K-POP is going. That's my opinion on it anyway.

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  77. The whole of 4minute is pretty useless. Hyuna can't rap, and the other members can't sing either. None of them are pretty.

    Dara of 2ne1 is worthless, the only redeeming thing about her is her acting skills in mv's.

    Sohee of Wonder Girls is useless.

    Half of SNSD is useless.

    Lizzy of After School is really useless. E-young, maybe. I was about to put Jooyeon, but she actually has things important about her. She just doesn't get any importance in AS though, she's practically invisible.

    And most Suju members are useless.

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  78. Jessica, Taeyeon, CL, Hwayoung, Eunkyo, Hyewon, Minah, Dara, UEE, Yoona, Wonder Girls/CSJH/most male "singers", Hyuna, Amber, Krystal, Victoria, Sulli.

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  79. for me uselles are....you all!!! :3 of your big jealooooooooous of them is really shame but,look on you LOL!!! can u sing? can u act? can u be actress?....NOOOOO!!! :DDDD AHAHHAHA!!! IM DIYNG OF U GUYS! JUST WASTE UR TIME GO WATCH TV OR EAT JUST DO SOMETHING :D SO BYE.....LOOOOOSERS.

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  80. anon 12:17
    Love your comment.You make me feel better Thanks 555+
    finally!,for me you are USEFULL

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  81. ^
    I'm from Thailand
    and I think nichkhun is not useless he brings Thai fans!!

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  82. Dara is the goddess of redundancy.

    She rakes in the money? That's only cos YG promotes the shit out of her. Wondering why? .... Hmmmm... no free lunch, right? I wonder what/who she did on her way up.

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  83. ^ YG doesn't promote the shit out of Dara at all. Dara promotes herself and 2NE1 through me2day. She rakes in the money because she's the most marketable out of the group.

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  84. After school e-young
    Not that I'm picking on her she has absolutely no lines or almost invisible
    At least uee and joo yeon contribute to the visual and popularity
    As for eyoung case she is no a great vocalist dancer and her instrumental skills are not needed in after school
    I could gladly trade bekah for her

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  85. why didn't you mention Hara, Uee, Nana, Qri, Hyuna, Jiyoung, Sohyun, Jihyun, Hwayoung, E young? Hayoung rom Apink, Minha from Nine muses and Yoonhye from rainbow, are also useless.
    and Hyo can't sing, but she's easily the best dancer, you just hate her no matter what and that's extremely stupid. she deserves to be in the group. and i'm not even hyoyeon biased

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  86. snsd should be reduced to 4 members, taeyeon and tiffany, the only ones who can (barely) sing; and hyoyeon and yuri, who can adequately dance. The rest are completely useless, with yoona (who can't sing, dance or act) being most useless of all. I don't know why she is the "face" of the group when at least 7 other members are prettier and 4 of those have some actual talent.
    Yes, I said it, hyoyeon is prettier than yoona, sunny is the ugliest and second most useless.

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  87. How about Himchan? I'm a bit biased over B.A.P but he can't really dance and he doesn't sing that great either. He's also not that attractive so what about him?

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