Friday, June 28, 2013

Question of the Week 73

This week's question comes from an anonymous asker from my ask.fm:
What makes one hate a kpop idol?

Thanks for your submission!



There are a lot of ways to answer this. I am not quite sure where to start, to be honest.

I think a big factor that adds to the bandwagon of hatred is sex appeal. Too often idol girls are highly criticized for being 'too sexy' by envious fangirls. I am sure that a lot less hate would be thrown around freely if netizens were not so jealous.

Also, I think a vast majority of people are just too sensitive. So sometimes, even the smallest things will trigger a witch hunt. I like to think that personally, I am pretty traditional in the sense that I think some modesty, professionalism, and respect to elders is necessary - so sometimes I do agree with the fans during a controversy (ex. so-and-so should have given more respect to a 'senior' idol - especially when they are being filmed. In general, everyone should give everyone respect. It is just polite). But maybe some fans take it too far and misconceptions from mistranslations/misinterpretations spur a domino effect of hatred - deserved or not.







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47 comments:

  1. 1. Being female and attractive
    2. See 1
    3. All of the above

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  2. 1. Yes, basically having some sexual appeal/concept + being attractive draws all the retarded fangirls' attention, from where they start to hate (eg. Hyuna).

    2. For me, it's those attention whores, shitteuk, kwanghee, etc.

    3. Princessy idols, eg. SNSD's Jessica in Running Man and Dream Team.

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  3. for me is the sex appeal i hate when the female idol do the sexy moves and also the clothes is too short and too tight kpop in the past was really respect in the songs and clothes but now it's all shit iam sorry for this word but it is the true

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    1. What happened to the commas and periods?

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    2. She's probably roleplaying a deprived mexican immigrant... hopefully.

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  4. Yesyesyes the whole sex appeal thing. As a fellow girl I wish they'd just accept that oppar will not and never has loved them, nor does that mean they will love any female kpop idol with limited clothing on ugh.

    On a personal level, it takes a lot of effort for me to actually hate idols tbh though the so-called 'mysterious' types in groups really irk me (like Myungsoo in Infinite I swear that's literally his freaking position in the group and tbh he doesn't work it at all either) also forced looking fanservice can either make me like an idol more (eg Krystal of f(x) and her equally badass sister) or just despise them/their concept (secret whenever they go cute tbh) oh and idols who seem to think that they're all that/everyone likes them and rub their attractiveness in everybody's faces like excuse you who died and made you king/queen. Also bad english hahah

    In general as well, if an idol seems like a general jerk though (especially for guys) I just can't like them at all.

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    1. l cosplay l cosplay l cosplay!
      tbh the fact that myungsoo is so bad at being the mysterious one was what made me like him.

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  5. Once they find out that their idol has had plastic surgery, LOL. My friend from my old school hated Hara because of that.

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  6. For me. Modesty, I am sorry but if you don't go with the american flow you are going to get flak from me.

    Also the new mv nerfed Hyuna's sexiness. She does not take advantage of her title as the queen of soju

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    1. Queen of Soju? You mean only gets too beautiful once you get crazily drunk?

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    2. Those commercials where chum churum guys were hard up for cash and decided to make sleezy soju ads. From social drink to club drink.

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  7. As you say, jealousy and the need for bitching is what causes this. It's also about the setting of high standards. Mostly ones that can't be achieved by an actual human being.

    As for those who do have legitimate issues with an idol, your question answers itself. These people hate the idol. Not the idea of an idol, the agencies which use them or industry which has created this legal for all ages pleasure trade. They simply project all the problems they have onto the person.

    Because it's easy. It's a face, an individual. It's much easier than looking at the industry's problems and attributing them to everyone at fault for when things turn twisted, including yourself as a consumer.

    As for idols who seem arrogant, it's the difference in classes. A regular citizen with a lousy job and barely enough to scrape by sees money and what looks like an easy job as something someone should appreciate. When idols act cocky, it makes people angry, because they feel the person is ungrateful.

    But unlike what you would do when you felt this for a person in any other profession, which would be to suck it up and move on, the industries and media have created this huge bubble of 'It's fine' around celebrities, where anyone can hurl insults at anyone just because they appear in front of a camera to sing, dance etc. Which is to me another huge issue, which I'm actually posting about this weekend, in light of the Se7en case.

    Rarely do people realize this job comes with a lot of baggage their own lousy jobs would never throw at them. They also rarely realize the persona they see through media or even the person themselves is not a 100% accurate representation of the person behind the idol mask. They assume a problematic persona or a front slip-up equals a bad person and that a good persona which satisfies their every need equals a good one.

    The hypocrisy and putting on a pretty face of the entertainment industry in Korea makes such issues inevitable, but the nature of their culture, society and people makes things even worse and brings more conflict.

    Ultimately, the more air you put under people's wings, the higher they'll fly and then they'll only demand more. As long as these industries or idols (in the rare occasions they are the ones in control) and netizens have this twisted version of an uncontrollable supply/demand relationship, not much will change. But big changes take time.

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  8. Sigh, of course I feel hatred towards idols, I will never be as perfect or pretty, or skinny, or earn as much motherfucking money as they do. I guess you could call me kind of jealous, I admit I am. One of the things that drove me to actually get up off my ass and lose weight (I'm down to 50.5 kg or 110-111 lbs now basically) was the thin, but curvy idols in kpop.

    To me there are some idols who just, IMO have offputting personalities. And then there's idols whose appearance I just don't like. And idols who I think are group deadweights. And so on. And then there's Hara. I just hate that anorexic alien.

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    1. LOL you're wasting you time hating/looking up to kpop idols. Most of them aren't rich AT ALL...maybe the ones that Korea actually cares about like 2pm/snsd/BigBang etc., but for the most part, idols are broke as a joke with 7 group members living in cramped 2 bedroom apartments and eating instant ramen hoping for a come-up either in acting or with a hit song. These groups are hardly making a dime. Most idols have nothing to show for all the kpop "fame" other than glass trophies from music shows and the occasional disk bongsang. The lesser known groups have it worse.

      If you want to be as skinny as Yoona or Nicole then put yourself on a really strict diet and stick with it. Stop beating yourself up over their good looks and simply save up money while you look for the best surgeon around cause honestly 90% of kpop idols have had some work done; even if it's "just" eyelid surgery, skin bleaching, braces or a tip refinement they've done something to enhance their looks.

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  9. I don't hate the idol, to me they're just doing a job. What I do hate are their overprotective, overbearing, bat-shit crazy fanbases.

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    1. However, without those psychos this site wouldn't exist to entertain us. So I guess it's a catch-22 for me.

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  11. I don't hate idols, but I hate how (not always) this industry is orientated to horny fans. I wonder what would happen if those fans actually dropped buying albums and going to concerts, fanmeetings etc.
    I wonder when would fans as consumers actually would demand for good quality music, but not for showing more of their unnies/oppas' boddies. I don't have problem with showing bodies in MVs/concerts (why the hell then they were starving themselves/working out?) as long as the song or lyrics are good.
    But well that ain't gonna happen in the near future, so companies would continue producing trashy songs, relying on idols' appearence and huge fanbases. Sigh.

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    1. I'm not personally against light music, a catchy tune is a catchy tune after all, but when too much money goes to that industry in comparison or when a beautiful thing as music is used to sell the bodies of often underage kids to horny fans, as you said, yes, I think there is plenty wrong with that.

      Still, most complaints I hear about kpop, especially the ones which are rage-induced, are more about insulting the idols than highlighting those problems. All they are doing is create a bad image for all kpop fans and shift focus from the rest of the equally big problems to their insanity.

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    2. "Make a good song until get cray-cray fan(girls)" motto?

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  12. Sometimes it's just a hate bandwagon, usually after a scandal (see Block B, IU, and T-ara). I think rumors are a pretty lame excuse to hate someone, but kpop fans are known too well to exhibit this kind of mob mentality. We seem to forget that idols are people, and are therefore prone to making mistakes. For some reason, kpop fans either resort to "oppar didn't mean it" or "oppar is utter scum".

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    1. Oppars never mean it, but those bitches are just bitches.

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  13. I'm absolutely honest here, it's the face.
    If the bitch has a fug face (Hyoyeon) or a smug face (Nana from AS), I can't stand them.

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  14. The idols whose face i don't like are Yoona, Jessica, Jaejoong, kahi, Hyeri, Cl, i don't like their face, not them, just their face mkki%

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    1. Jaejoong's face scares the hell outta me. Same with Jessica, but I don't hate her either.

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  15. As you can see, even these comments show that good looks is the #1 reason(and arguably the only reason) anyone -especially chicks- will hate a particular idol. If the person claims it's the idol's "personality" or "talent level" or something, it's always in an appearance related way. Like, "she can't sing she's just there to look pretty" or "s/he is stuck up because they think they're so good looking".

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    1. Oh yeah and it also applies if the idol is really ugly. Guys hate ugly girls, girls hate ugly guys(usually), with a bit of overlap.

      I'll be 100% honest, if Hyogre were actually pretty I could forgive her for being a terrible singer and an average dancer that gets propped up as the greatest shit ever all the time. But she's not Yoona and never will be Yoona, so she's doomed(you see what I did there?).

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    2. Yoona is such an average whatsoever, i think you meant Taeyeon????????+?=9?

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    3. @man tits; Yoona is not considered ugly or even just average. She's not as good looking as Taeyeon, but has a very nice and clean face.

      Also, I'm a dude so no jealousy involved.

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    4. Hyoyeon is hot what are you talking about

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    5. Hyoyeon is hot what are you talking about

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  16. Personally speaking here, it's retarded that people are actually jealous of idols, be it in terms of looks/sexual appeal or for the fame and money.

    They're honestly just people. And I don't even wish to be rich or famous. Ok I kinda lied about the rich part, but I wouldn't want to work hard for it as idols do (that defeats the point, you can't fully enjoy your money when you don't even have enough time).

    As far as sexual appeal goes, I don't believe all fangirls who hate on certain female idols (namely Hyuna) are necessarily jealous. That's actually a very typical delusional fan response to the hatred their bias receives most commonly found in the comments section under a YouTube video. Sure, that reason is true for many but not all. One can be a Rania fan (which would generally be considered "sluts" by jealous fangirls) but hate Hyuna on the other hand simply because being sexy doesn't come naturally to Hyuna. As a guy, I can tell that she's forcing it and she looks damn ugly and try-hardish doing it to be honest. I never thought she was hot.

    Now the looks thing is also stupid. They get their makeup done by professionals, they have stylists, they get skin treatments, procedures, plastic surgery, etc. If an average looking person (which most idols are, a lot of them being way below average [see Daesung, Yoseob, Sunny, that hunchback girl from Chi-Chi lul, need I go on?]) had all this, they would look 100 times better and be on an idol-level in terms of looks.

    I realize I haven't answered the question yet. So with all that being said, again speaking only for myself here, I hate idols who come off as very arrogant, fake (Tiffany raises red flags here), try hard (almost all of GayPM), too attention whore-y, obnoxious or over-the-top (CL), or whose face just pisses me off, not due to "jealousy" or some bullshit like that, but simply their face is annoying... could be due to ugliness or other factors... (G-Dragon, that Beast member who raps like a dumbass, fucking Minho, Zinger, etc).

    Though in that case, it's not that I hate the idol really, it's that they annoy me and I wish to not looks at their face for long.

    Another thing I should mention, Eunjung's voice makes me cringe. So add that to the list of reasons.

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    1. How's that for typing too much?

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    2. thunder always looks like a baby seal

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    3. Sums up pretty much why I dislike certain idols

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  17. What makes one hate a kpop idol?

    My answer: Them not behaving properly?
    Don't ask me for examples. We netizens need to be forgiving, HA!

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  18. i honestly have never understood how you could spend your life hating someone who is too far away and too damn busy to ever care about what you think. also a person that you don't know anything about. this whole celebrity worship thing confuses me

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  19. I never felt insecure for a female idol being overly sexy

    this bitches don't have lesbo fantasy, bullshit

    the only thing that can make me hate an idol if they kill somebody.....Daesung gets a pass

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  20. I don't really hate any kpop idols. I find some annoying and dumb but I don't hate anyone. Theyve never actually done anything to me....

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  21. Sexy is fine...I just hate the aegyo crap.

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    1. tell that to sunny unnir!!!,... if you dare to... since her fandom and the "sones" will kill you.

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  23. an idol can be sexy is okay (don't worry hyuna i will protect you!) the thing is when the sexy image turns slutty... (again hyuna...im sorry i couldn't protect you, your slutty power are too much even for me,okay, tsk. sorry for being human!)

    other thing i hate is when they do notable plastic surgery and still think they're natural beauties (yeah, yoona, you maybe have lied to the sones but your nose job is no lie to me!)

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